A Dream Goes On Forever…

I became interested in my dreams – and the phenomenon of lucid dreaming in particular – when, as a much younger man, I lost someone very close to me. At first, I was just looking for a way to escape the pain of being awake and remembering; but as I started to pay more attention to my subconscious, I became fascinated by the possibility of something more.

And then, by chance (or higher design?) I happened upon a documentary about lucid dreaming. Has it ever happened to you? You suddenly become aware that you are dreaming while you’re still inside your dream and find that you can control what happens? Lucid dreamers have this down to a fine art. In this documentary, however, the researcher – who came across as a very down-to-earth woman – clearly believed that there was more to lucid dreaming than met the eye, and that dreams were more than merely a way for the mind to process the information from your waking day.

The possibility of escape to another world.

The researcher was not especially interested in Freud’s obsession with dreaming as an outlet for the machinations of one’s repressed sexual desires, and she went beyond Jung’s notion of the collective unconscious, to suggest that dreamer’s may be inventing world’s that in some strange way actually exist.

“Wow!”, was my first thought. “How?” was my second. However, it was with my third thought: “Why?” that my life changed, albeit for a short time. It happened like this.

At the crux of the lucid dreaming documentary was an experiment with three “guinea pigs” – men who all claimed they were all able to control their dreams and did so on a regular basis. Prior to the experiment, they had never met. And this is where it got weird…

The researcher introduced them to one another, then separated them and kept them in isolation in three individual bedrooms. She then gave the same task to each man. That night, while they slept, they were to meet up with one another. That was it. No further information was given, and the men were not allowed to have any further contact.

That night while they slept their brain activities were monitored and the periods of rapid eye movement (indicative of dreaming) recorded.

In the morning, the researcher interviewed each man individually and asked each to recall his dream. Man A had dreamt that he was walking through a huge, lush forest that seemed to go on without end. He wandered along aimlessly for some time before he remembered that he had to meet the two other men. Eventually he came to a large oak tree in a clearing and thought it a good meeting place, so he stopped walking and waited beneath the tree. After a while, man B appeared and came to stand beside him. They chatted and waited for man C to arrive, but man C did not appear. That was all.

Man B too had dreamt he was walking through a huge forest. He walked for a long time without meeting either of the other two men, and was just about to give up when he spied a large oak tree in a clearing in the distance. He walked towards it and there he found man A waiting peacefully. He joined man A and they talked for a while. They waited, he said, for man C to appear, but man C didn’t arrive.

Man C’s story was much simpler. He had found himself walking in a huge forest. He walked for hours and hours, but never saw another soul.

By this time the hair on the back of my neck was standing on end. But it was nothing to what happened next…

The researcher interviewed a pleasant middle-aged Englishman who had dropped out on the hippie trail in the late sixties and eventually wound up in Tibet, where he spent the next twenty years living with an arcane Buddhist sect. These particular Buddhists – some esoteric offshoot of Lamaism, a branch of the Mahayana stream of Buddhist thought – placed great emphasis on the importance of dreams. In fact, long periods were given over to teaching initiates how to dream properly, that is, how to take control of one’s dreams and fashion them.

This particular novice had spent half his life in a world where dreams were accorded equal status with waking experiences.In particular, the Lamas taught initiates how to return to a dream, how to re-enter it and how to pick up where they had left off. After fifteen years of training, most members of the sect had mastered this and experienced and enjoyed serial dreams which were internally consistent and in which they participated not as puppets, guided and moved by external forces, but as individuals, fully in charge of their thoughts, actions and movements.

By the time the disciple left Tibet, he no longer knew which of his two worlds – his dream world or his waking world – was the ‘real’ world: they were equally authentic.

For a long time, I agonised about whether I should follow in this man’s footsteps, but, in the end, what saved me from my intolerable pain was writing a novel which incorporated all of these ideas. I did create a new world from my waking dreams and, for a while, I was able to escape to it. And in so doing, I created my fourth novel, “Daniel’s Dream”…

PS The title of this post relates to the song of the same name, written and performed by the inimitable Todd Rundgren. If you’ve never heard it, search it out, for it is surely one of the most beautiful songs ever recorded.

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16 thoughts on “A Dream Goes On Forever…

  1. Peter, I’ve experienced lucid dreaming as well. Found this post fascinating and wonder if there is a connection to lucid dreaming and the traumatic experience of losing someone when you are young. My first novel, now with an agent, incorporates lucid dreams, the msyerious death of a sister and the visions that lead and guide the main character. Glad to find your blog and am going to buy your books right now! Holly Michael. writingstraight.com

    • Hi Holly, so pleased the post connected with you – too often dreams are dismissed as somehow extraneous or unimportant, when there are times when the reality of dreams is every bit as real and vital as waking life. It’ll be interesting to see if anyone else has had similar experiences after suffering physical and or emotional trauma. Good luck with finding an agent, and if you tire and want to go the self-publishing route, email me – I used to be published by Simon & Schuster, but have chosen to go Indie.

      • Funny, an agent who has sold a friend’s book to Simon & Schuster is looking at my ms now. She requested it. I haven’t yet queried any agents. If I don’t get interest there, I’ll go indie. That’s my plan. Thanks for the offer of help.

  2. A fascinating post on dreams and what they mean and whether we can control them or not. It is a mysterious world we enter, when we sleep and let go. Thanks for your thoughts. It has inspired me to share some of my own, which I’ll post and link to yours.

  3. Amazing! I’ll be back to read more of your posts. I don’t know much about lucid dreaming, but I’m an expert in day dreaming. Sometimes I picture scenes so vividly in my mind it’s almost as if it was happening for real. Same emotions. I bet my subconscious mind doesn’t know the difference. And now I really want to read your book!

  4. I read this once in Popular Science (way back in the 80s). Several times during the day ask yourself if you’re dreaming. Usually the brain knows this answer, but sometimes it gets confused. This will develop a habit that will re-surface while you are asleep and dreaming.

    After you ask yourself this question and think you’ve answered it, go and read something short. A sign or a label will do. After reading, look away for a second and then look back. If you are dreaming, the thing you read will have changed. (dreams are spooky that way)

    Once you’ve done this, you are now in control of your dream.

    However, it won’t last long. Your brain really does want to rest while you’re asleep! 🙂

    forgefire.blogspot.com

  5. First off, great choice going with Todd Rundgren’s music.

    I sometimes have half lucid dreams you might say, but mostly I just succumb to the dreams and let them happen. This probably reflects how I live my life.

    I’m a big fan of dreams. I have a blog dedicated to the topic.

    Lee
    A Faraway View
    An A to Z Co-host blog
    Twitter: @AprilA2Z
    #atozchallenge

  6. Hello,
    I’ve just shared this blog post with my friend Danny who is on a mission to train himself to dream lucidly – I get the feeling this might be right up his street! Enjoying reading your posts very much!

    Michelle

  7. Hello Peter,

    I have shared this post with my friend Danny, as he is on a mission to train himself to dream lucidly, so I thought this might be just his thing!
    Have enjoyed reading your blog posts, your books sound great 🙂

    Michelle

  8. Dreams and dreaming are a big part of my creative life. I dream in stories 🙂 I’ve also suffered night terrors, sleep walking and talking. So the whole realm of parasomnias, lucid dreaming, and all that hold great interest for me.
    Loved your post 🙂

    • Thank you Melanie – it’s always really satisfying to hear when another person connects with something one has written. Dreams are too easily overlooked in most Western cultures as some sort of “by-product” of life, which so odd as almost everyone has had some sort of extraordinary experience while dreaming. And while Im sire night terrors can’t be much fun, dreaming in stories has got to be great!

  9. Great post – fascinating story. I’ve also experienced lucid dreaming. You book sounds interesting 🙂

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